Experiment 24

“A key word plus the K2 coordinates: the digits as a numeric second component added to a repeating word”

The second component is no longer an unknown word but a known digit stream, the K2 coordinates in several readings, at every alignment and either sign. Only the first word is unknown, so every slot of it is forced and the test is exact.

revertedstatus
experiment 14parents
62 stime, all phases
0candidates
0/24known letters
1

The experiment method

What the method does with the 24 known letters.

The second message ends with map coordinates. A natural trick is to add those digits to a secret word, letter by letter, so the keythe secret word The word or string a cipher needs besides the method. is a word plus a number. Because we know the number, the 24 known lettersthe known letters Sanborn has confirmed that positions 22 to 34 of the message read EASTNORTHEAST and positions 64 to 74 read BERLINCLOCK. tell us the secret word's letters directly, and tell us several of them twice. If the two tellings disagree, that word length and that way of reading the number are out. We try every word length, every way of reading the coordinates as digits, and every starting point.

Words in the margin are defined on the glossary page.

1.1

The method at work

The carved letters go in at the top; the reading comes out at the bottom.

OBKRUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWEASTNORTHEASTOTWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBBERLINCLOCKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCARIN: THE COPPER, ALL 97 LETTERS, THE 24 KNOWN PLACES IN ACCENTthe digit key: the K2 coordinates read as '38 57 6 5 77 8 44', repeated under the message3857657784385765778438576577843857657784385765778438576577843857657784385765778438576577843857657word lengths that survive, once the digits are taken off the forced totals2627282930nothing shorter than 26 letters survives-7-6-5-4Englishbest forced word on the copper -5.58best on a shuffled copper -5.39OUT: NO READING; NO WORD PLUS THESE DIGITS MAKES THE KNOWN LETTERSEASTNORTHEASTBERLINCLOCK
the digits

K2 ends with map coordinates. Read as digits and repeated under the message, they could be a second key added to a repeating word: two keys, but the second one known.

the word

Taking the digit off each known place leaves the word's letter forced outright. Across 29,232 cases (readings, alignments, sign, word length), no word shorter than 26 letters fits.

the scale

The best forced word scores -5.58 as English, no better than on a shuffled copper. The coordinates are not a numeric key of this kind.

2

Best candidate against the known letters

This experiment produced no candidate: the search ruled everything out before a full text was built. Its product is the bounded negative in section 7.

3

Walkthrough, by hand

Redo the method on a few letters with pencil and paper.

  1. Read the coordinates as the digits 3 8 5 7 6 5 7 7 8 4 4 and repeat them under the message.
  2. Position 22 is E against the carved F; under the sculpture's alphabet with Vigenere the total key letter is R, index 1.
  3. The digit under position 22 at alignment 0 is the 22nd digit, 3; subtract it: index 24 is the word letter for slot 21 mod a.
  4. With a 7-letter word that is slot 0.
  5. Position 29 also uses slot 0: do the same there; the two values must agree.
  6. Go through all 24 known letters; one disagreement kills this length and alignment.
  7. A survivor's forced letters spell the word; see whether it is one the puzzle knows.
the worksheet: the first steps by hand, on squared paper
THE DIGITS UNDER THE KNOWN PLACES, READING '38 57 6 5 77 8 44', ALIGNMENT 0, KRYPTOS TABLEplaceknowncarvedtotaldigittotal - digitword letter22EF1819N23AL1055O24SR21714H25TV18612F26NQ1522V27OQ1578B28RP2721UThe total is the key index that turns theknown letter into the carved one. Take off thedigit and what is left is the word's letter inthat slot; two places in one slot must agree.
4

Worked example, generated

The same steps run by the code on the real letters.

digits 38576577844 repeated under the message, alignment 0; KRYPTOS alphabet throughout, Vigenere; word length 7

pos  plain  carved  total key  index  digit  word index  slot
 22    E      F        B         1      4       23       0
 23    A      L        K        10      3        7       1
 24    S      R        V        21      8       13       2
 29    T      R        X        23      7       16       0
 30    H      N        F         5      7       24       1
 64    B      N        L        11      8        3       0

positions 22 and 29 share slot 0: their word indices must agree, or length 7 is dead at this alignment.
5

Hypothesis, for a cryptanalyst

Family, key space, the constraint under test, and the clues it reads.

Scheidt's two-component habit (C6) and the K2 coordinates 38 57 6.5 N, 77 8 44 W (C23 reading b): a word key x of length a and a digit key d of known length L combine as t[i] = x[i mod a] + s d[(i + o) mod L] mod 26, with s = +1 or -1 and alignment o. The forced total t at each crib follows from the convention as in 0014; subtracting the digit term leaves the word slot forced outright, so the 24 cribs test the word's a slots with 24 - a redundant checks. Digit readings: 3857657784, 38576577844, 385765778440, the minutes and seconds only 5765844 and 57658440, degrees only 3877, and each with the 6.5 as 65 or 6 and 5. Word lengths 2-30, plain and cipher alphabets standard or KRYPTOS, both plaintext signs, both s, every o. Survivors have their forced word matched against the vocabulary and K1-K3 windows and scored as English with ten shuffled controls. Bounds: complete for these digit readings and alphabets.

6

Prediction

Written before the run; the result decides it.

No word length under 20 survives for any digit reading, alignment or sign. Survivors from length 20 up are chance and their forced words are noise against the shuffled controls. Zero candidates pass.

7

Method

  1. List the digit readings.
  2. For each alphabet pair and plaintext sign, compute the forced total key index at each crib.
  3. For each reading, alignment, sign s and word length a, subtract the digit term and reduce to the word slot; reject on any disagreement.
  4. For survivors, read the word in the standard and KRYPTOS alphabets, match it against the vocabulary and K1-K3 windows, and score it as English.
  5. Repeat the scoring on ten shuffles of K4.
8

Result and bounds

The harness's record: candidates, gates, loss, and the negative result this experiment leaves behind.

0candidates returned
0passed every gate
0/24known letters, best
–lowest loss
nonechampion before

29232 cases; shortest surviving word length 26; best forced word -5.584 vs shuffled best -5.393; 0 matches.

What was searched, as the harness recorded it.

family
word key plus known digit key (K2 coordinates), additive
digit readings
38 57 6 5 77 8 44
3857657784
38 57 65 77 8 44
38576577844
38 57 65 77 8 44 0
385765778440
57 6 5 8 44 (minutes, seconds)
5765844
57 65 8 44 0
57658440
38 77 (degrees)
3877
38576577844 reversed
44877567583
word lengths
2-30
alphabets
plain and cipher in {std, kry}; word read in std or kry
cases
29,232
survivors by word length
26
40
27
1,008
28
1,008
29
1,008
30
33
shortest surviving word length
26
best forced words
  1. score
    -5.584
    length
    29
    reading
    38 57 65 77 8 44 0
    offset
    9
    s
    -1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    std
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    TYCLUBUNEDODIBDH.....RENURELU
  2. score
    -5.655
    length
    28
    reading
    38 57 65 77 8 44 0
    offset
    9
    s
    -1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    std
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    UTYCLU.BUNEDODIBDH...RENUREL
  3. score
    -5.792
    length
    27
    reading
    38 57 65 77 8 44
    offset
    2
    s
    -1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    std
    mode
    beau
    word alphabet
    std
    word
    NSYONSQ..SFOLIMTRAZY.RQQUIL
  4. score
    -5.815
    length
    27
    reading
    38 57 65 77 8 44 0
    offset
    9
    s
    -1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    std
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    LUTYCLU..BUNEDODIBDH.RENURE
  5. score
    -5.943
    length
    28
    reading
    38 57 65 77 8 44
    offset
    2
    s
    -1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    std
    mode
    beau
    word alphabet
    std
    word
    SYONSQ.SFOLIMTRAZY...RQQUILN
  6. score
    -6.026
    length
    27
    reading
    57 6 5 8 44 (minutes, seconds)
    offset
    1
    s
    1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    kry
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    ARSTMDC..EMAPMGEAMVB.RETUPY
  7. score
    -6.131
    length
    28
    reading
    38 57 6 5 77 8 44
    offset
    2
    s
    1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    kry
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    std
    word
    FEETII.NRFDSOIJRVL...BLEWAYI
  8. score
    -6.15
    length
    28
    reading
    57 6 5 8 44 (minutes, seconds)
    offset
    1
    s
    1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    kry
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    RSTMDC.EMAPMGEAMVB...RETUPYA
  9. score
    -6.151
    length
    27
    reading
    38 57 6 5 77 8 44
    offset
    2
    s
    1
    plain
    std
    cipher
    kry
    mode
    vig
    word alphabet
    std
    word
    IFEETII..NRFDSOIJRVL.BLEWAY
  10. score
    -6.154
    length
    27
    reading
    38576577844 reversed
    offset
    9
    s
    1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    std
    mode
    beau
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    CHVEDNH..IYETOBLBPLO.EDQUOG
  11. score
    -6.16
    length
    27
    reading
    38576577844 reversed
    offset
    1
    s
    1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    std
    mode
    beau
    word alphabet
    std
    word
    KOWJOUS..NGMIAFOLERF.MOPSCQ
  12. score
    -6.165
    length
    27
    reading
    57 65 8 44 0
    offset
    2
    s
    1
    plain
    kry
    cipher
    kry
    mode
    beau
    word alphabet
    kry
    word
    KRANKSO..QAZOINREDSU.WNKQBL
and 3 more
shuffled control best
-6.039, -5.393, -5.708, -5.966, -5.808, -5.857, -5.878, -5.919, -5.845, -5.881
vocab matches
0

How this experiment sits among the others is on the lineage page; its family's open hypotheses are on the families page.

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