Experiment 64

“The scrambled text as its own key, on tables rebuilt from the solved messages' words”

Experiment 25 tested the cipher that feeds on its own output on tables rebuilt from the puzzle's vocabulary. Experiment 62 then showed this recipe is the one that makes the copper's width-21 mark. Here the tables come from every word of the solved messages and Sanborn's 2025 letter, at every distance, with scrambled coppers as the control.

revertedstatus
experiment 25parents
2 mintime, all phases
0candidates
0/24known letters
unclocked
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The experiment method

What the method does with the 24 known letters.

In this cipher each letter is hidden using the hidden letter some fixed distance earlier, so once it starts it needs no secret word at all. Each of the 24 known lettersthe known letters Sanborn has confirmed that positions 22 to 34 of the message read EASTNORTHEAST and positions 64 to 74 read BERLINCLOCK. then tells us exactly which carved letter must sit that distance before it. We check every distance from 1 to 95 on tables rebuilt from every word of the solved messages, and count how close any of them comes, compared with scrambled copies of the copper.

Words in the margin are defined on the glossary page.

1.1

The method at work

The carved letters go in at the top; the reading comes out at the bottom.

OBKRUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWEASTNORTHEASTOTWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBBERLINCLOCKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCARIN: THE COPPER, ALL 97 LETTERS, THE 24 KNOWN PLACES IN ACCENTciphertext autokey at distance 21: each known letter is keyed by the carved letter 21 places before itOBKRUOXOGHULBSSEKZZWATJKplace 22 needs key R (E under F on SHADING and INVISIBLE); the carved letter 21 back is Othe fewest misses any setting leaves: the copper against ten shuffled coppers0123456the copper: 3OUT: NO READING; THE COPPER DOES NO BETTER THAN SHUFFLED ONESEASTNORTHEASTBERLINCLOCK
the autokey

In a ciphertext autokey the key at each place is the carved letter a fixed distance before it, so once the start is past, the copper itself is the key.

the check

Drawn for distance 21 with SHADING for the message and INVISIBLE for the copper: place 22 needs key R, and the carved letter 21 places back is O.

the bound

All 102 x 102 tables, four key alphabets, three modes, distances 1 to 95: never fewer than 3 misses, while shuffled coppers searched the same way reach 2.

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Best candidate against the known letters

This experiment produced no candidate: the search ruled everything out before a full text was built. Its product is the bounded negative in section 7.

3

Walkthrough, by hand

Redo the method on a few letters with pencil and paper.

  1. Take SHADING for the message alphabet, INVISIBLE for the carved alphabet and KRYPTOS for the key alphabet, with Vigenere.
  2. Place 22 holds E (9 in SHADING) under carved F (10 in INVISIBLE), so the key letter there is the one at index 1 of KRYPTOS: R.
  3. At distance 21 the key letter is the carved letter at place 1, which is O, not R, so place 22 fails at lag 21.
  4. At distance 10 the key letter would be the carved letter at place 12, L, which also fails.
  5. Count the failures over all known places past the starter, for every distance and table.
the worksheet: the first steps by hand, on squared paper
CIPHERTEXT AUTOKEY AT DISTANCE 21: SHADING FOR THE MESSAGE, INVISIBLE FOR THE COPPER, KRYPTOS FOR THE KEYplaceknowncarvedkey neededplace - 21carved there22E=9F=10R1O23A=2L=5P2B24S=0R=19N3K25T=19V=2C4R26N=5Q=18G5U27O=15Q=18P6O28R=18P=17Z7XThe key needed is the KRYPTOSletter at index carved - known.The autokey offers the carvedletter 21 places back. They mustagree.7 of 7 disagree here: distance21 is dead on these tables.
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Worked example, generated

The same steps run by the code on the real letters.

place  plain  carved  key letter needed (KRYPTOS)  carved 21 back
   22    E      F               R                    O
   23    A      L               P                    B
   24    S      R               N                    K
   25    T      V               C                    R
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Hypothesis, for a cryptanalyst

Family, key space, the constraint under test, and the clues it reads.

Ciphertext autokey, key letter = carved letter L back read in the key alphabet, lags 1-95, plain and cipher alphabets from the 102-alphabet pool of 0053 (K1-K3 plaintext words, C13/C14 words, standard, KRYPTOS), key alphabet standard, KRYPTOS, the plain alphabet or the cipher alphabet, three modes. Each crib at place i > L requires a specific key letter, hence a specific carved letter at i - L; the count of satisfied cribs per lag is exact and needs no primer. Motivation: 0062 found ciphertext autokey at lag 21 the only generator that raises the width-21 repeats (0056). Report the fewest mismatches over all settings against ten shuffled coppers. Bounds: complete for this pool.

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Prediction

Written before the run; the result decides it.

No setting satisfies every crib past the starter; the fewest mismatches is about the same on K4 as on the shuffles (several). Zero candidates.

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Method

  1. Build the alphabet pool.
  2. For each plain, cipher and key alphabet and mode, find the carved letter each crib requires L places back.
  3. For each lag, count satisfied and violated cribs using the positions of each letter on the copper.
  4. Keep the fewest violations.
  5. Repeat on ten shuffles.
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Result and bounds

The harness's record: candidates, gates, loss, and the negative result this experiment leaves behind.

0candidates returned
0passed every gate
0/24known letters, best
–lowest loss
34champion before

Fewest mismatches over all settings: 3 (('kry', 'LOWER/keyword', 'cipher', 'vig', 68, 6)); ten shuffled coppers: [2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3]. Full matches: 0.

What was searched, as the harness recorded it.

family
ciphertext autokey on K1-K3-word and C13/C14-word alphabets
alphabets
102
key alphabets
standard, KRYPTOS, plain, cipher
modes
3
lags
1-95 (at least 6 cribs past the primer)
fewest mismatches
3
best setting
plain
kry
cipher
LOWER/keyword
key
cipher
mode
vig
lag
68
cribs checked
6
full matches
0
control fewest mismatches
2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2

How this experiment sits among the others is on the lineage page; its family's open hypotheses are on the families page.

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