Alexis Rondeau

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Hacker News comment · Friday, May 16, 2025 · 22:19

Comment on Launch HN: Tinfoil (YC X25): Verifiable Privacy for Cloud AI

Technically my wife would be a perfect customer because we literally just prototyped your solution at home. But I'm confused.

For context:

My wife does leadership coaching and recently used vanilla GPT-4o via ChatGPT to summarize a transcript of an hour-long conversation.

Then, last weekend we thought... "Hey, let's test local LLMs for more privacy control. The open source models must be pretty good in 2025."

So I installed Ollama + Open WebUI plus the models on a 128GB MacBook Pro.

I am genuinely dumbfounded about the actual results we got today of comparing ChatGPT/GPT-4o vs. Llama4, Llama3.3, Llama3.2, DeepSeekR1 and Gemma.

In short: Compared to our reference GPT-4o output, none (as in NONE, zero, zilch, nil) of the above-mentioned open source models were able to create even a basic summary based on the exact same prompt + text.

The open source summaries were offensively bad. It felt like reading the most bland, generic and idiotic SEO slop I've read since I last used Google. None of the obvious topics were part of the summary. Just blah. I tested this with 5 models to boot!

I'm not an OpenAI fan per se, but if this is truly OS/SOTA then, we shouldn't even mention Llama4 or the others in the same breath as the newer OpenAI models.

What do you think?